Airline Pilot Training Suspect? : Asian Score - F?

This from a retire Marine airline pilot - is it true, don't know, but to some extent it appears to have some validity. You choose.

 

What happened to the B-777 flight is quite simple.

1. They are Asian.

2. They are Asian .

3. They are Asian.

They cannot, nor will they ever be capable of a visual approach. Not in their skill set. They are totally directed in how to do every thing. Free thought is not allowed. Add the culture; not losing face, and the flight was doomed as soon as they were cleared for the visual.

The landing speed of 137 kts better know as Vref is 1.3 above stall. All airplanes fly this speed. So dividing 137 by 1.3 = 105 or Vs (stall). Stick shaker is 1.07 Vs or in this case 112 Kts. So they slowed 25 kts or 25x1.151=28.7 Mph.

When they finally play the cockpit voice recorder, you will find nobody said a word as the aircraft slowed. NOBODY! That is because to do so would have caused a loss of face. Many problems.

It does not matter at all the guy only had 43 hrs in type. Not at all.

He had plenty of time in 74's. An airplane is an airplane. They ALL fly the same way. (Except the piece of junk airbus)

I have watched time after time Asian carriers cleared for visual approaches miss the runway, either to high or get low and miss. I have gotten on the radio and have told the controller, send them out for the ILS or they are not landing today. Needless to say have been in trouble many times because of it.

 

The fact they waited til 1 or two kts above stick shaker to say something says volumes about the cockpit culture.

When I was a check airman, doing the exact thing he was doing, I allowed abt 5 kts either side of Vref before correcting. You have to see if they will correct. Part of the learning curve. Was more tolerant if fast than slow. If they did not correct the situation in a timely manner than I did. It's your Job!!

The fact that all four pilots in that cockpit allowed that aircraft to slow to stick shaker and say nothing is beyond belief by western culture standards!!!

They, the Faa and NTSB will dance around this fact, not want to offend anyone. This will also be tragic.

So if the airline sounds Asian DO NOT get on it!!!

We have been discussing over the last couple of years, that pilots being trained today with all the automation, lack basic flying skills. Both western and foreign.

We see it in the Sims every day. It is a guarantee , if they are Asian, and you take away the automation, it will not end well. Never does. But, by the same token, we have just as much failure with the new breed of American pilots.

Have had many a discussion with our FAA reps and they know it to.

This problem will only get worse over time. I would take a train but an Airplane would probably crash into it.

 

Have a great day!